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Earliest reference describes Christ as ‘magician’

A team of scientists led by renowned French marine archaeologist Franck Goddio recently announced that they have found a bowl, dating to between the late 2nd century B.C. and the early 1st century A.D., that is engraved with what they believe could be the world’s first known reference to Christ.

If the word “Christ” refers to the Biblical Jesus Christ, as is speculated, then the discovery may provide evidence that Christianity and paganism at times intertwined in the ancient world.

The full engraving on the bowl reads, “DIA CHRSTOU O GOISTAIS,” which has been interpreted by the excavation team to mean either, “by Christ the magician” or, “the magician by Christ.”

“It could very well be a reference to Jesus Christ, in that he was once the primary exponent of white magic,” Goddio, co-founder of the Oxford Center of Maritime Archaeology, said.

He and his colleagues found the object during an excavation of the underwater ruins of Alexandria’s ancient great harbor. The Egyptian site also includes the now submerged island of Antirhodos, where Cleopatra’s palace may have been located.

Both Goddio and Egyptologist David Fabre, a member of the European Institute of Submarine Archaeology, think a “magus” could have practiced fortune telling rituals using the bowl. The Book of Matthew refers to “wisemen,” or Magi, believed to have been prevalent in the ancient world.

According to Fabre, the bowl is also very similar to one depicted in two early Egyptian earthenware statuettes that are thought to show a soothsaying ritual.

“It has been known in Mesopotamia probably since the 3rd millennium B.C.,” Fabre said. “The soothsayer interprets the forms taken by the oil poured into a cup of water in an interpretation guided by manuals.”

He added that the individual, or “medium,” then goes into a hallucinatory trance when studying the oil in the cup.

“They therefore see the divinities, or supernatural beings appear that they call to answer their questions with regard to the future,” he said.

The magus might then have used the engraving on the bowl to legitimize his supernatural powers by invoking the name of Christ, the scientists theorize.

Weird science: Top unexplained mysteries Goddio said, “It is very probable that in Alexandria they were aware of the existence of Jesus” and of his associated legendary miracles, such as transforming water into wine, multiplying loaves of bread, conducting miraculous health cures, and the story of the resurrection itself.

While not discounting the Jesus Christ interpretation, other researchers have offered different possible interpretations for the engraving, which was made on the thin-walled ceramic bowl after it was fired, since slip was removed during the process.

Bert Smith, a professor of classical archaeology and art at Oxford University, suggests the engraving might be a dedication, or present, made by a certain “Chrestos” belonging to a possible religious association called Ogoistais.

Klaus Hallof, director of the Institute of Greek inscriptions at the Berlin-Brandenburg Academy, added that if Smith’s interpretation proves valid, the word “Ogoistais” could then be connected to known religious groups that worshipped early Greek and Egyptian gods and goddesses, such as Hermes, Athena and Isis.

Hallof additionally pointed out that historians working at around, or just after, the time of the bowl, such as Strabon and Pausanias, refer to the god “Osogo” or “Ogoa,” so a variation of this might be what’s on the bowl. It is even possible that the bowl refers to both Jesus Christ and Osogo.

Fabre concluded, “It should be remembered that in Alexandria, paganism, Judaism and Christianity never evolved in isolation. All of these forms of religion (evolved) magical practices that seduced both the humble members of the population and the most well-off classes.”

“It was in Alexandria where new religious constructions were made to propose solutions to the problem of man, of God’s world,” he added. “Cults of Isis, mysteries of Mithra, and early Christianity bear witness to this.”

The bowl is currently on public display in the exhibit “Egypt’s Sunken Treasures” at the Matadero Cultural Center in Madrid, Spain, until November 15.


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Who knows, there has been much speculation about Jesus. He must have been a special being with supernatural powers, alien or human.

Modern magicians claim they use spirits to allow them to perform what they do. Was ‘Jesus’ a metaphor? Allegedly Magician is the term they used when Pontius Pilate had him crucified (albeit the conditions he was crucified were in no way the same as anyone else and some would argue it coincides with Astro-Theological concepts, or otherwise a old-timey 9/11 occult significance.) All I can tell is the vast majority of people have no real understanding about what is going on. I still find it rather interesting that ‘John the Baptist’ is often considered the one to “start the movement”… Read more »

The word Emmanuel translates to “God is with us.” Matthew recalls the messianic prophecy from Isaiah 7:14 and states that its ultimate fulfillment is found in Mary’s Son: “Behold, a virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and his name shall be called Emmanuel” (Matt. 1:23).

“Name,” in this sense, does not refer to the actual name Joseph and Mary were to give to their Son ,Jesus (cf. Matt. 1:21, Luke 1:31); in this case, the word is used in the sense of “to call” (i.e., “they shall call his name Emmanuel,” cf. Is. 7:14).

You mentioned, “…John the Baptist’ is often considered the one to “start the movement” that Jesus Christ (originally referred to as ‘Emmanuel’) was known for”. Most famously, it is said that he baptized Jesus of Nazareth thereby (according to Christian accounts) fulfilling the biblical prophecy that Elijah would “come first” to usher in the arrival of the Messiah (Malachi 3:1). The Christian gospels equate John the Baptist with Elijah himself (Matt. 17:12-13). However, the scriptures also suggest a counter-narrative in which John did not fully recognize Jesus’ authority. Instead, John continued to lead his own separate following. Several New Testament… Read more »

The nature of how Jesus was crucified, Historical Roman accounts and experimental work have established that the nails were driven between the small bones of the wrists (radial and ulna) and not through the palms. Nails driven through the palms will strip out between the fingers when made to support the weight of the human body. The misconception may have come about through a misunderstanding of Jesus’ words to Thomas, “Observe my hands.” Anatomists, both modern and ancient, have always considered the wrist as part of the hand.

Total time Jesus was on cross. 9 hours.The Jewish leaders did not want the victims hanging there the next day, which was the Sabbath (and a very special Sabbath at that, because it was the Passover). so they asked Pilate to hasten their deaths by ordering that their legs be broken. Then their bodies could be taken down. So the soldiers came and broke the legs of the two men crucified with Jesus. But when they came to Jesus, they saw he was dead already, so they did not break his legs. One of the soldiers, however, pierced his side… Read more »

I’m somewhat referring two the nature of how he was crucified and released from the cross 3 days after being on it, when normally it would be a different time frame. Some of the argument is covered in the Zeitgeist movie.


Most likely Jesus was born late August or September. When John lept in Elizabeth’s womb at the presence of Jesus in Mary .That was during “The Festival of Lights” (December time frame) The 25 Dec date is more likely closer to his conception than birth.


If Jesus Christ existed, allegedly, he would have been an Alien hybrid with supernatural capabilities. Ancient people might have assumed he was a magician, like Merlin!


A little bit weird for me. Total speculation on this.